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		<link>http://accessify.com/news/2006/11/petition-the-uk-government-for-better-web-accessibility/comment-page-1/#comment-1748</link>
		<dc:creator>Garf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I&#039;m hinting at is that the developer may provide the framework for an accessible website, but anybody who ultimately publishes content to it can very easily cause it to fail guidelines, so we need to be clear where responsiblity lies...

&quot;Such software can never fully test compliance with WCAG&quot;
that&#039;s partly my point though...what else is a web manager going to rely on if they can&#039;t assess a webpage themselves? As the developer, you may have to justify yourself against auto test results that you know are flawed

&quot;You shouldn’t have non-technical staff adding raw HTML content. That’s a sure way to guarantee your site’s eventual inaccessibility&quot; I totally agree, and I&#039;ve been advising our clients the same thing. But if the client demands an option to have free reign over their page layout then the client gets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;m hinting at is that the developer may provide the framework for an accessible website, but anybody who ultimately publishes content to it can very easily cause it to fail guidelines, so we need to be clear where responsiblity lies&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Such software can never fully test compliance with WCAG&#8221;<br />
that&#8217;s partly my point though&#8230;what else is a web manager going to rely on if they can&#8217;t assess a webpage themselves? As the developer, you may have to justify yourself against auto test results that you know are flawed</p>
<p>&#8220;You shouldn’t have non-technical staff adding raw HTML content. That’s a sure way to guarantee your site’s eventual inaccessibility&#8221; I totally agree, and I&#8217;ve been advising our clients the same thing. But if the client demands an option to have free reign over their page layout then the client gets.</p>
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		<dc:creator>benjaminhawkeslewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and incidentally, it would be nice to have some hint about what sort of markdown or markup can be used in these comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and incidentally, it would be nice to have some hint about what sort of markdown or markup can be used in these comments.</p>
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		<title>Köpa Billiga Cialis - Discount Online Pharmacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>benjaminhawkeslewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garf,

&quot;I see scenarios arising where a web manager or sponsor will never sign off a project on the basis of some automated accessiblity testing software’s results.&quot;

The petition suggests compliance with WCAG, not with some automated accessibility testing software. Such software can never fully test compliance with WCAG. For example, it cannot distinguish appropriate from inappropriate ALT attribute content.

&quot;where you have a team of ‘non technical’ editorial staff adding content, it only takes a font tag here or there within that content to cause a page to fail AA.&quot;

You shouldn&#039;t have non-technical staff adding raw HTML content. That&#039;s a sure way to guarantee your site&#039;s eventual inaccessibility. You should you use some sort of transformation on the content they add to ensure it is valid and conforms to guidelines. Tag soup-based systems are intrinsically broken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garf,</p>
<p>&#8220;I see scenarios arising where a web manager or sponsor will never sign off a project on the basis of some automated accessiblity testing software’s results.&#8221;</p>
<p>The petition suggests compliance with WCAG, not with some automated accessibility testing software. Such software can never fully test compliance with WCAG. For example, it cannot distinguish appropriate from inappropriate ALT attribute content.</p>
<p>&#8220;where you have a team of ‘non technical’ editorial staff adding content, it only takes a font tag here or there within that content to cause a page to fail AA.&#8221;</p>
<p>You shouldn&#8217;t have non-technical staff adding raw HTML content. That&#8217;s a sure way to guarantee your site&#8217;s eventual inaccessibility. You should you use some sort of transformation on the content they add to ensure it is valid and conforms to guidelines. Tag soup-based systems are intrinsically broken.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Garf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see scenarios arising where a web manager or sponsor will never sign off a project on the basis of some automated accessiblity testing software&#039;s results. That&#039;ll cost the developer money. Also, where you have a team of &#039;non technical&#039; editorial staff adding content, it only takes a font tag here or there within that content to cause a page to fail AA. (Admittedly this isn&#039;t the case with the DTi site) Surely its unenforceable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see scenarios arising where a web manager or sponsor will never sign off a project on the basis of some automated accessiblity testing software&#8217;s results. That&#8217;ll cost the developer money. Also, where you have a team of &#8216;non technical&#8217; editorial staff adding content, it only takes a font tag here or there within that content to cause a page to fail AA. (Admittedly this isn&#8217;t the case with the DTi site) Surely its unenforceable?</p>
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		<link>http://accessify.com/news/2006/11/petition-the-uk-government-for-better-web-accessibility/comment-page-1/#comment-1602</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 05:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UK Government should indeed try to at least highlight the need for accessible sites more - and indeed where possible highlight examples of good web design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UK Government should indeed try to at least highlight the need for accessible sites more &#8211; and indeed where possible highlight examples of good web design.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Rosie Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem with the petition, similar to Dan, is the focus on passing WCAG standards.  This causes the problem of people focusing on passing standards without necessarily being accessible.

The focus of accessibility should be on the user, the petition should therefore focus on the user, and because it doesn&#039;t, I don&#039;t feel it is right to sign it.

Now if it was reworded I may well change my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem with the petition, similar to Dan, is the focus on passing WCAG standards.  This causes the problem of people focusing on passing standards without necessarily being accessible.</p>
<p>The focus of accessibility should be on the user, the petition should therefore focus on the user, and because it doesn&#8217;t, I don&#8217;t feel it is right to sign it.</p>
<p>Now if it was reworded I may well change my mind.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Eastwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with this initiative, in that all future government websites should all be at least AA accessible. My reservations, though, are that it could prompt a trend whereby the WCAGs become normative, as opposed to guidelines. I dont thing it greatly applies to this drive, but could prompt a worrying precedent whereby at the minimum, projects doen&#039;t get signed off through &#039;not having met the guidelines&#039;, but are completely accessible. I&#039;ve outlined my thoughts here http://www.thoughtballoon.co.uk/blog/articles/2006/12/01/should-we-sign-the-accessibility-e-petition</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this initiative, in that all future government websites should all be at least AA accessible. My reservations, though, are that it could prompt a trend whereby the WCAGs become normative, as opposed to guidelines. I dont thing it greatly applies to this drive, but could prompt a worrying precedent whereby at the minimum, projects doen&#8217;t get signed off through &#8216;not having met the guidelines&#8217;, but are completely accessible. I&#8217;ve outlined my thoughts here <a href="http://www.thoughtballoon.co.uk/blog/articles/2006/12/01/should-we-sign-the-accessibility-e-petition" rel="nofollow">http://www.thoughtballoon.co.uk/blog/articles/2006/12/01/should-we-sign-the-accessibility-e-petition</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Higginbotham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Campainers might also want to engage in such matters in a more direct way by participating in a public consultation which Becta have recently launched on guidance as to what constitutes a &#039;reasonable adjustment&#039; in creating and using accessible software.  While the brief is wider than Websites alone much educational content is delivered via the Browser and the principles of adjustment in the development and procurement process are common across communities.  You can get involved up to the 12th of December at http://communities.becta.org.uk/digitalresources/reasonableadjustment/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Campainers might also want to engage in such matters in a more direct way by participating in a public consultation which Becta have recently launched on guidance as to what constitutes a &#8216;reasonable adjustment&#8217; in creating and using accessible software.  While the brief is wider than Websites alone much educational content is delivered via the Browser and the principles of adjustment in the development and procurement process are common across communities.  You can get involved up to the 12th of December at <a href="http://communities.becta.org.uk/digitalresources/reasonableadjustment/" rel="nofollow">http://communities.becta.org.uk/digitalresources/reasonableadjustment/</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Stenhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The government should be setting examples with regards to accessibility...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government should be setting examples with regards to accessibility&#8230;</p>
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